Reader comments: Utah mine boss defends search for miners
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I am very sorry about the miners and the men that we have lost.
My studies of History conclude that Unions are Socialist/Communist organizations and always have been.
Our Government was never meant to control every aspect of our lives or keep us safe from every little problem in this life. We are supposed to be free to try whatever we want and to accept the consequences either good or bad. Our many Lawyers and Governmental Regulations have taken this freedom away from us.
I respect Bob Murray for having the strength to start a business of any kind under these threatening conditions to provide the energy that all the critics demand. Maybe the critics should have all electricity to their homes and safe offices turned off until they safely produce the coal to provide the energy all by their own individual labor.
Maybe we should fight the environmentalists who keep us from using our own country's resources of oil and nuclear energy and run up the costs with their endless studies and impact statements.
And maybe we should stop electing governmental officials that take away our freedoms by supporting environmentalists, Unions, and costly regulatory agencies. And let's teach real history in our schools instead of Social Studies (studies in socialism).
I don't know what conditions were like in the mine before the collapse. Maybe it was too unsafe to continue mining. If so, the miners underneath the ground, should have refused to go in. If companies can't find workers, they can't do business. But, we used to live in a free enterprise system. Of course safety needs to be first. Always. But . . . we also need to protect the industry and vision and guts of people willing to make a move and create jobs, good paying jobs, for those of us without other opportunites.
I think they have done what they could all along to rescue the men. People don't understand that you can't just go "poking holes" in an unstable mountain, not knowing what is below. It just can't be done.
That's because they'd lose their job. Dangerous work, but they counted on oversight, making sure that minimum safety requirements were being met, before they went in, and they weren't. (most miners don't have the scientific/engineering experience to gauge whether or not the drill plan is safe, so they need to really on MSHA's stamp of approval, which was bought and paid for by Murray.)
When I watch him on tv, I see a man who's faith has kept him strong throughout this tragedy. I feel he is being honest and remains committed to finding the miners the best he can.
I believe the reason the boreholes were not being drilled all at once is because the mine was deemed to be too unstable, too fragile to attempt such a rescue effort. The vibrations of 5 drills at once may have further collapsed some structures. I think the decisions makers, which Mr. Murray has said includes more than 500 years of experience plus I would think all levels of gov involved in mining, I think the decisions were made based on maintaining the safety of the miners and did not want to put them at further risk.
I also believe the miners may be found soon.
May the strength of God continue to support the rescue efforts of this miners and bring peace and comfort to the families and all those involved.
That habit of thought is not one conducive to maintaining a safe work environment in workspaces he controls. It is a vice, far more hazardous to his employees than second hand smoke.
Mr. Murray believes this collapse was caused by an earthquake. Some other people believe it was due to mining activity. Is it possible this could have been due to ill intent as opposed to any of the above?
He told all family memmers not to talk to the press, even the ones who wanted to talk were pressered by Murry to keep zipped lips..
THIS REALLY MADE HIM LOOK BAD from day one!!! WHAT IS HE TRYING TO HIDE??????? HE MADE HIS SELF LOOK GUILTY FROM THE START!!!
That being said, how do you blame Mr. Murray.
The ones that wanted reassignment got it.
It is ridiculous the way people always want to blame others.
To the families & friends, you have stood up amazingly under all the strain -- families in a somewhat similar situation in China got angry in just 4 days. God bless you all with peace, too -- He knows where & how your miners are, and can give you spiritual comfort even if no physically touchable answers are available.
May we all continue trusting in the Lord, who ultimately knows 1) what is best to do, and 2) what the miners, families, and owner need. Our prayers are with you all!!!
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As far as "what exactly would you have done?", in the case of Mr. Murray claiming that oxygen just naturally seeps into his mine, I would have refrained from making such a statement. In the case of his claim about earthquakes, I would have said "we need to examine the scientific evidence in order to understand what happened here and prevent it from happening again," rather than baldly asserting that the scientists are wrong because their explanation of the seismic evidence was contrary to my interest in growing my bank account and having a clear conscience.
MURRY IS HIDDING SOMETHING!!!!!!
WE WILL FIND OUT SOON!!
Thank you!!!
You said it all..... Murray is hiding something!
The truth is . . . there was a tragedy. The mountain "bumped" and killed miners and then rescuers. If it was a mining caused seismic event, rather than an earthquake as Mr. Murray asserts, who can blame him for hoping and wishing to make it an earthquake. I would HATE to feel responsible for the death or injury of one person, much less, six and then nine more. I can think of times I have shaded things in my favor because the truth was too hard to bear, especially right at first. Can't we just give him the benefit of the doubt? He did his best. The miners were doing their best to earn a living for their families, and the rescuers were doing a wonderful job trying to save all. Who was being derelict? The miners themselves had responsibility for their own safety. If they thought the mine was too unsafe they should not have gone in. I am grateful to the miners who are willing to go after the coal we all use to live. I am also grateful to men like Murray who provide jobs and opportunities.
But the miners are dead and this is Utah, so cut Mr. Murray a break.
ps was the "baldly" asserting a freudian??
Coalminer's daughter
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