@2bits "Trump has negotiated business deals in Russia. He knows how to get
things done in Russia. Most leaders in Russia today are pragmatic (and no...
it's not just one person, Putin)."American capitalism and
Russian capitalism are becoming increasingly similar - typified by massive
wealth concentrations at the top. Trump, Tillerson, and Putin - the 3 Amigos.
@Ernest T. BassRE: "Let's be honest. Putin has enough dirt and
money loaned to trump that trump is effectively owned by Putin"...---Is there any proof Putin loaned any money to Trump? No.If you're going to say it... At least have some evidence what you are
saying is true.If you say things there is zero evidence of.... you
are just as bad as Trump just saying he was under surveillance with no proof.===RE: "pragmatic POTUS, President Obama"...---So would you have approved if Obama had appointed Hunstman?I get the feeling the answer is yes.The pragmatic POTUS, President
Obama, had an Ambassador to Russia as well... was he Evil?I mean the
Ambassador who accepted the job.What's the difference?Partisanship.
Let's be honest. Putin has enough dirt and money loaned to trump that trump
is effectively owned by Putin.In a bizarro world, the right wing has come
full circle and likes an oligarch dictator like Putin a lot more then they liked
a very kind an pragmatic POTUS, President Obama.
I think Huntsman (and maybe even Trump) will be able to communicate with Russian
leaders better than a bunch of Democrats who are anti-business and 100%
political ideologues.Huntsman Sr made tons of money negotiating
deals in Russia (he built many factories there). He knows how to get things
done in Russia.Trump has negotiated business deals in Russia. He
knows how to get things done in Russia.Most leaders in Russia today
are pragmatic (and no... it's not just one person, Putin).Russian leaders today know they need an economy. And to have an economy, they
need to be somewhat at peace with the world. USA should work on that angle.
You do business with us... and the world will do business with you.You fund or arm Hamas... there will be problems. Not just a red line in the
sand they know we won't enforce, but business/economic issues first,
military issues only if they do something really stupid.Give Trump a
chance. You may be surprised.He's used to dealing with people
like Putin. From many negotiations he knows compromise and some "win"
in the deal for both sides is critical to making the deal.What if
relations with Russia improve?Is that bad?
Dan, what about Putin's influence with Trump. Isn't that even more of
a threat to the U.S.?
Kudos to Dan Liljenquist for acknowledging that Vladimir Putin is a serious
problem, which President Trump seems either completely naÏve about, or has
no objection to.Trump openly admires Putin, and clearly envies
Putin's 81% approval rating among Russians. (If there's any solace
for Trump, it's that Arnold Schwarzenegger wouldn't be able to achieve
an 81% approval rating, either.)For those who've done the
research, Trump strategist Steve Bannon appears to have no problem seeing the
kind of social upheaval that would lead to Trump achieving the same level of
control, and dominance. (Sure, there would be many thousands killed, and
imprisoned, but it's a small price to pay for making America Great Again...
it would seem.)We all need to hope that more Republicans, like
Liljenquist, oppose the radioactive poison Bannon is trying to feed America.
"But Russia under the leadership of Putin and his cronies is not much
different from the Russia of old. While Putin has repudiated communism,
..."It's true. Russia today is every bit a menacing and
expansionist as say Kruschev's Russia. There exists a Russian national
character which existed before communism and persists after it. It's too bad socialism has to carry the Soviet baggage. American
socialism predates Bolshevism. The socialism of Eugene V Debs is nothing like
the socialism of Stalin. Let's understand this.As for the
relationship between today's Russia and the Trump campaign, and the support
of 1/3 of our electorate for that connection, well I am amazed. Huntsman will either grow enormously as a statesman, or the experience will
ruin him. I wish him the best.
Trump appointed Huntsman because Hatch asked him to. Hatch didn't want
Huntsman as an opponent for Senator. Huntsman's ego swayed him to take this
job. The US needs a strong ambassador to offset Trump's ties to Russia.
Huntsman won't be that guy-that's why Trump chose him.