Sportsfan123 - Salt lake, UTMarch 22, 2017 9:57 a.m."The
CIA/FBI can listen in on anyone they want by sitting in a office at Langely and
noone will know who is doing it. "Are you referring to the
microwave oven in the break room at Trump Tower? Please tell us more
on how such conclusions by Rep. Chris Stewart (R, UT 2nd) are achieved when the
House investigation into the Trump-Russia connection is just beginning? Does
Stewart just have a Sixth Sense into these matters and doesn't require
anymore evidence to come out of the House Intelligence Committee? And if he is
so sure of his conclusions, why does he differ so much from ranking member Rep
Adam Schiff (D, CA 28th)?Perhaps the FBI/CIA have developed the
technology to place listening devices into the shell of Donald Trump's
favorite taco bowl lunch. Now that would be truly ingenious. There are many way
of listening in on Trump that the aluminum-foil-hatted crowd are just learning
about.Does Stewart have insight into Trump's "proof" he
intends to release as some undisclosed future date? Perhaps it's with the
"evidence" left behind in Hawai'i on Obama's birth
Thanks to GW Bush and passing the Patriot act, our inteligence agencies have run
wild with electronic surveilance, illegal surveillance.Trump has
good reason to believe someone has illegaly listened in on goings on in the
Trump tower, because it has happened. The problem is he pointed the finger at
the wrong person, Obama. Trump also used the same outdated term used by the NY
Times, wiretapping when they published the article about wiretapping data being
used against Trump associates. Wiretapping is physically placing a bug on a
hotwire, someone would have to physically place the bug in the Trump tower. That
is obsolete technology.The CIA/FBI can listen in on anyone they want
by sitting in a office at Langely and noone will know who is doing it. The fact Trump used the outdated term wiretapping has given our inteligence
community plausable deniability and they will beat this horse until its dead,
wiretapping isnt used anymore so they can actual say there is no evidence of it
because there isnt any. Yet Flynn was ousted by electronic surveillance data,
and someone leaked it.Comey refuses to investigate the leak because
it would indict the inteligence community who did it.
@all Trump haters, libs, demsIts funny you all are taking jabs at
Rep. Chris Stewart who is part of the investigative commitee that has access to
actual information in question regarding possible collusion between Russia and
Trump aids and to how they (Russia) intended to influence the U.S. election
process and because he isnt saying what you want to hear you start making
disparaging comments about him.So whats more real? Your comments
about Chris Stewart or Trumps tweets.Rep. Stewart just exposed the
silly witch hunt that it is, as he said there is no more evidence of collusion
of Trump associates with Russia than the silly assurtion of Trumps accusations
of Obama wiretapping.O, but what is fact is that there are leaks
from inside this sick and corrupted govt. From our very own inteligence
community as evidenced by data leaked out about Micheal Flynns conversations
with Russia. Yet what did Flynn actually say or do? Noone is saying. Therse
other cases of leakes about Trumps conversations all coming from our very own
inteligence agencies. Yet as Chris Stewart said he has seen no evidence of
collusion.Maybe its the inteligence agencies that is the real
Yuge Opportunity Here - Mapleton, UTMarch 21, 2017 4:45 p.m."Come now . . . "Is this your way of trying to distract
from the topic? If you look at the story referenced, you will find it is just
another of a long line of misinformation generated by wingnut radio talking
heads. Listening to Rush Limbaugh all day long is detrimental to one's
perception of the real world and critical thinking skills.Of course,
you can believe anything you want and repeat it in these threads, but you should
realize that others have access to legitimate news sources which often offer a
more realistic explanation of events. Having others tell you what you may want
to hear and reinforce your perception of things is certainly one way to function
in a complex world.If you prefer to cite Breitbart, InfoWars, Fox
& Friends, Trump tweets, and Rushbo, then OK. However, you should provide
your sources before making such statements so we all know where you are getting
your information. Apparently, Donald Trumps often watches Fox News (AKA Trump
Propaganda Network) for his next series of tweets. But, then, he often just
makes it up to stir the pot and get us all chasing rabbits.
Apparently, like Jason Chaffetz, Chris Stewart will sell his soul out of
partisan loyalty. Instead of focusing on the target, Stewart goes after those
who exposed the treachery of the Trump campaign. Colluding with the Russian
government, although not established as fact, has not been disproven as FBI
Director James Comey and NSA Director Adm. Mike Rogers have testified. This is
not a done deal and attempts to blow smoke is not helping.Perhaps
the worst statement of Monday's hearing was when Trey Gowdy (R, SC 4th)
suggested that both Comey and Rogers were maintaining "a cloud of
suspicion" on the Trump administration and that news reporters should be
prosecuted for using information provided by government leaks to pursue news
stories. This is akin to going after the person who calls the fire department
for a far started by an arsonist. But then, Gowdy is only trying to recover from
his embarrassing committee appearance in confronting Hillary Clinton over the
Republican Benghazi investigation fiasco.Republicans need to explain
why they find Russian government interference in our presidential election to be
a non-issue. What is the price they will pay?
Hutterite - American Fork, UTMarch 20, 2017 3:37 p.m."Yes,
the leaks are bad, and illegal."We're talking about
"leaks" concerning the Trump campaign and its possible collusion with
the Russian government, right? If anything, these are not "bad" and only
"illegal" because the information is damaging to the current
administration. Like Donald Trump says, " Any news that is critical of him
or not in his best interests is 'fake news' and should be discounted
by his supporters."We're talking about a president who
wants to rule and control the nation like his favorite, best buddy, Vladimir
Putin within a circle of secrecy. For the last 50 years the American people have
wanted more transparency in government and each administration has limited
access to information to some extent. President Obama was particularly
criticized by the Republicans for not being transparent enough.Now
we have the Trump administration which wants to operate like a private
corporation within a shroud of compete secrecy. Fortunately, that's not the
way it works. Estrangement of the press and intelligence agencies results in
other methods to reveal the machinations of government.
Not that it matters much, but if Hillary Clinton had become president and was
trying to limit transparency of her administration and had contacts with a
hostile foreign power to break American laws, the Republicans would be
applauding any leaks that came out to expose her complicity. Unfortunately, people like Chris Stewart are playing partisan games, trying to
distract from possible subordination of the American people by a foreign power
intent on doing us harm. This is giving aid and comfort to a hostile entity
rather than focusing on protecting the American people from the unlawful actions
that so many Donald Trump supporters have both encouraged and endorsed. Giving a pass to Trump (regardless of how he may have colluded with or
promoted cooperation with the Russian government and its intelligence agencies)
shows a blatant disregard to American interests and values.In stark
contrast to previous Republican policies, cozying up to the Putin regime while
alienating many of our historic allies, is unfathomable except when it came down
to doing the "unthinkable" to keep Hillary Clinton from becoming
Shortly after Pres. Trump's tweet accusing former Pres. Obama of having his
Trump Tower office bugged, Rep. Stewart said publicly that although there was no
evidence yet of this wiretapping, the accusation, nevertheless, "didn't
come out of thin air." Though less serious than the President's
accusation, Rep. Stewart has supported and insinuated the same baseless
accusation of a former president, and in response is now attacking
"leakers" and bellowing that there is no evidence of collusion with the
Russians. The FBI and NSA believe that there is credible evidence, hence their
investigation. Rep. Stewart has now twice shown not only a dubious commitment to
the truth and to justice, but has also done something very close to obstructing
justice.This isn't just politics. It's dishonest,
unethical behavior, bordering on illegal behavior, by a sitting member of
Congress that smears the reputation of the state and district he represents,
violates his oath to protect and defend the US Constitution, and potentially
compromises the security of this nation. Rep. Stewart has much to answer for
and hopefully won't dig the hole he's in any deeper.
@FrozenCome now. Hillary's Russia connections were far more damning
than Trump's praise for Putin's ability to get things done.Hillary signed off on the Uranium One sale just as Bill gave a $500K speech to
the Russian atomic energy agency. And Podesta's BROTHER was the lobbyist
who got paid $180K to put the deal together.Not to mention
Hillary's brothers (Tony and Hugh) and their embarrassing deals with the
Russians. @airnautSee my message to Frozen.Follow the
If you watched much of the hearings of Comey and Rogers, you saw one political
side getting angry at the information they were hearing, and one side getting
angry only at the releasing of that information.Guess which side was
which.Almost all the Republicans have sold out their country for a
little political power. Ugh.
1st law of espionage - compromise.If you have smack on someone, you
have their them.Trump's himself and his entire administration
is chuck full of folks who are all about serving putting themselves first, and not about serving and putting their country first.Start your
investigation there Mr. Stewart.
@Yuge Opportunity Here"Hillary was playing the Russia card during the
summer, warning us not to vote for Trump because he was cozy with Putin. (Now,
how did SHE know all that before the Obama administration? Veeeery
interesting.)"It was public knowledge that Trump had
complimented Putin, had said he'd get along better with Russia than
Hillary, had hired Manafort to be campaign manager who was previously working
for the Putin-allyed leader in Ukraine. The only thing the Trump campaign pushed
for in the party platform at the convention was softening on Ukraine, a shift in
the direction Putin would like. It was obvious Trump was cozying up
with Putin during the summer. You don't need any special info to know that,
one just needed to be paying attention.
This is so hypocritical that it's not worth the time commenting. Apparently
Chris Stewart is now Utah's primere Trump surrogate and defender of the
indefensible.When transparency is gone, we have whistle blowers
giving us information that requires news follow-up and exposure of lies. If the
Trump administration was not so secretive in its desire to be a model of
Vladimir Putin's authoritarian government, we would not have these leaks.
But Donald Trump is trying to manipulate and push an agenda that is against
everything American. Thus, we have those who would expose him.And
then there are the Russians with their propaganda and attempts to cause
confusion and chaos. Pay attention to the intelligence hearings. FBI Director
James Comey and NSA Director Mike Rogers put everything in place: Trump lies and
no amount of denial and "leak hunt" will change this.Why is
Trump so concerned about the leaks in the White House? Because they expose him
for the danger he is to the American people and the fraud he is. Without them,
we would know nothing of what is really going on. Simple fact that Stewart
apparently refuses to acknowledge.
So, now we know the creed that Chris Stewart lives by as a Congressman:"Snitches get stitches!"
If it is true that Putin worked to disrupt the 2016 presidential election, is it
possible that he also tried to disrupt the 2012 election?Romney stated
that Russia was our enemy.It seems that in 2012 Putin would have been
hoping the Republican would not win the presidency. Did Russia help defeat
Romney in 2012?
The house is ablaze, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and all
Stewart cares about is who called the fire department.
"I hope you find those guys and I hope you crack them on the head,"
Stewart said.Remember those words, representative. And when it
becomes obvious that some of the leaks are actually coming from / direct by
Donald Trump himself, I hope you are first in line to "crack him on the
head" - and hold the exit door open for him.
Trump supporters do not seem to understand that when the Democrats were targeted
all America was attacked. In upcoming elections the Russians may select to
damage the Republican Party. They are disruptors not people with a conservative
Finding the leakers is a task for another time. Focusing on it is---in
subtext---saying, "somebody did something very wrong, they told the police
who killed that guy---that's being a rat fink!. Right. The most
delicious thing about all of this is that it began with Donald Trump tweeting a
about our former beloved president, of a Saturday morn not so long ago.
That's one little tweety bird who, shall we say--got out of the cage and is
now very hard to call back. Oooooh this is gonna be interesting and I mean
"bigly" interesting. Watergate interesting.
Leaks?Mr. trump was convicted of having a strange/convoluted
relationship with the truth.No Problem.Deflect, Deny,
Obstruct becomes the order of the day by re-Publicans to protect their beloved
iPOTUS.Leaks...Leaks...Leaks...re-Publicans tell Americans...Leakers
need to have their heads cracked.But... only when the leak(s) expose
the re-Publican Political Machine/Cartel.Exactly.
Stewart and the other Republicans want to divert our attention from the
Russian-Trump connection. Their political power is far, far more important than
the welfare and future of the United States of America. If the leaks reveal
Russian interference and influence, and unmask a relationship between Trump and
his team and Putin/Russia, then the leaks will have served a higher purpose.
It's awful that Stewart and the Republicans want to kill the messenger
rather than address the dire message.
It's funny. Rep. Stewart says he's most interested in punishing the
whistleblowers. Shouldn't we first investigate what they uncovered?
Reasons for looking into the Trump-Russia connections with open eyes:Major
power grid outage in the US,Military communications goes out,Major
industries, banking, airlines, food distribution software no longer works due to
hacking, It is known many of Trump's personnel picks are poorly vetted, who
in turn will hire poorly vetted, possible Russia sympathizers into vital
positions, (power stations personnel, Pentagon, Airline industries, etc.) All these new hires will need to do is just open an infected e-mail sent by
Russia to do us harm, like that mentioned above. Though the Republicans
have so much hate toward the Democrats/liberals, they are not considering this
possibility - thus Russia will soon say against the US - CHECK MATE!
The news yesterday, today and tomorrow is not about the leaks. It took decades
to find out who ratted out Nixon to Woodward and Bernstein. And, it happened to
be true. The leaks are not the problem, lying and possible collusion are. Let
the facts take us where they will. If leaks help, so be it.I got a
real problem with the Republican party trying to convince us that the leaks are
the problem. And what if we find out that some of the leaks regarding the
Trump administration acutally come from the Trump administration? Let's get real folks. As someone else has said, the house is on fire.
Let's investigate who lit the matches and who is lying to the American
people. Then do something about it. Our nation is in grave danger.Sad
Gary Kasparov (Russian democracy activist and Putin critic) tweeted today:
"The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and
the GOP demands to know who called the fire department."So, Rep.
Stewart says that the committee sees zero evidence regarding any collusion
between Trump campaign and Russian officials. Yet Comey then says that there is
still an active investigation. Was Stewart's definitive statement a bit
premature?It seems to me that Rep. Stewart needs to take a different
approach. Instead of denying collusion now, say "we look forward to hearing
the conclusions of the FBI once they are concluded. If there was any evidence of
collusion, then we need to see it. If there was none, then the campaign deserves
to be exonerated."Yes, leaking classified info is bad, and I
know this as one who deals with it regularly. But it pales in comparison to a
President who tweeting unsubstantiated claims about being "wiretapped."
Rep. Stewart, please don't ignore the bigger problems here. We don't
need a whitewash.If Trump is truly innocent, we deserve to know. But
if he isn't, then he doesn't deserve to be president.
The hearing today with Director Comey was Congress trying to get an answer on
Trump's wild accusation that Obama had him wire-tapped.(That
Trump wants to change the law to make it much easier for citizens to sue for
libel is irony-on-steroids.)Like a trial lawyer with a weak case,
Chris Stewart didn't defend or support Trump on the primary question. Instead, he changed the subject, tacitly joining those who've
condemned Trump for telling a whopper.
No need to "crack heads", just file felony charges. That would do just
"he Director confirmed that there is an ongoing investigation of the
connection between campaigns and the Russians. How do you do that without
wiretapping or surveillance?"Because the FBI was tapping and
monitoring the Russians, like they have been doing for the last 70 years. What
is amazing is some were foolish enough to not assume that the Russians were
being watched. There are two ends to every phone connection. You don't
have to tap phones in Trump Tower to intercept calls coming into Russian
phones.Is that such a hard concept? And all of a sudden....
conservatives no longer think Russians are a risk. Lets not forget that it was
pretty much Comey who delivered the election to Trump by his comments that
Hillary's compaign was also being watched. Russians good.
Media bad. FBI now bad. Judicial system bad. Conservatism has been turned
on its head.
"Rep. Chris Stewart wants FBI to 'crack' heads of classified info
leakers"Right!Basically, the Democrats want to find
out the depth of collusion between the Russians and the Republicans who were
aided in their election campaigns BY the Russians.And the
Republicans, of course, are set on punishing the leakers, who leaked damning
information about the Trump camp's relations with Russia.Stewart's first focus is to PROTECT the Russians, our greatest
geopolitical foe. After all, it was they who worked to ensure Republican
victories last November.Should we be surprised that the first
priority for the Party of Treason is to protect the enemy?
"Obviously Comey is attempting another huge diversion from the real
problem..."Wow. You Republicans are amazing. The intelligence
committee admits they have a potential criminal investigation on going into the
actions of a sitting President and his associates. They definitively say the
sitting President falsely accused the former President of a criminal security
act, and you all are all exercised about where the information came from.....to
the extent that the WH has suggested the press who received the information
should be prosecuted. History changing stories have always come
from "leaks". Just think what the world would have looked like if
"deep throat" were the story and conclusion of Watergate. "If" the dots connect here like they may...Iraq has WMD will look like
the actions of ignorant ideologues, and of course, you can keep your doctor is
all ready the play ground chatter of children. Trump's
expanded ego will be his demise...and demise it will be.
Why isn't Rep Stewart as concerned about Russia undermining this country
through influencing our elections as he is about the leaks? While I
agree that the leaks are dangerous, it is also dangerous to our democracy when a
foreign country tries to destroy us. A little concern on Stewart's part
would be appropriate.Pushing about the leaks is a diversionary
tactic on the part of Repubs. It distracts us from scrutinizing the
president's tweets too closely.
The Russians didn't even have to hack the election count, per se, to impact
the election results. By calling attention to the FBI investigation of
Hillary's emails (which came to nothing) but NOT calling to what was an
ongoing investigation of links between the Trump campaign and the Russians,
Comey basically did the bidding of Putin. This clearly effected the election
result, which came down to just thousands of votes in a few battleground states.
Would Hillary have won were it not for Comey? Who knows. Did Comey and the
Russians impact our election for President? Certainly. Any decent American,
right or left, should support a thorough investigation. Leaks are surely a
concern, but Stewart's focus on the leaks is disingenuous at best.
@Hutterite:"No evidence of wiretapping or surveillance."You
weren't listening today....or reasoning very well. The Director confirmed
that there is an ongoing investigation of the connection between campaigns and
the Russians. How do you do that without wiretapping or surveillance?What
Comey narrowly answered was there was no evidence "Obama wiretapped Trump
Tower." That could mean literally nothing worth even pondering. Of course
you could also technically say Hitler did not start WWII. It was his field
commanders that invaded Poland dontcha know.Obviously Comey is attempting
another huge diversion from the real problem that Stewart has correctly stated
that Government Officials are leaking information to the Press in a public
manner as well as illegal and partisan hacking of Americans. That hits way too
close to home for Comey and he would rather we be focused on those pesky
Most people concerned with treason.
I want to know one thing, did Trump and/or his senior staff knowingly collude
with Russian operatives in a dirty tricks campaign in an atteppt to win the 2018
election?Trump's lies, while serious, and leakers actions, that
are just as serious, are not the big story. I want to know if anyone worked with
our enemies for their own personal gain - that's the story.If
there is no link, then this matter is of little consequence. Is there is
collusion with the Russians, Trump's days in the White House are limited.
Really - this is the take away that the DN got from the hearings today? The
leaks were the real issue? Not that Trumps claims were refuted? Or that the
FBI admitted that there is an ongoing investigation into the Trump campaign with
the Russians? The big story is that it was leaked?Why is it that
"conservatives" just seem to not care that the Russians tried to
influence this last election by various means? Who cares who the candidates
were, or who even won. The fact that there was enough evidence of possible
collusion to investigate.... and because it was a fellow Republican being
investigated, they want to sweep it under the rug. I don't get it.Republicans and democrats alike should want answers to who and how...
because next time it may go in the other direction.
The biggest "leak" and the most dishonest thing that I have seen in all
of this is the "leak" done by the FBI Director, Comey just days before
the Presidential election. This leak that there was yet again another
"investigation" into someone's computer was the nail in the coffin
by the dishonest GOP in their lies and falsehoods about Hillary Clinton. We find out today that the FBI was investigating Trump and the Russians
at the same time, but Comey only divulged the investigation about Clinton. He
conveniently forgot to let Americans know that Trump was under investigation.
This stinks to partisan GOP politics. That of course influenced the
outcome of the election far more than the Russian connections. This leak is
squarely on FBI Director, Comey. This was an act of treason on his part. Yet
the GOP applauded this fraud with open arms. Now they are the ones under
investigation and the GOP wants to find these "leaks"? Stewart is
now coming forward? Where was he when his party was allowing this fraud against
Hillary? BTW, there was nothing found in that disgusting
"leak" by Comey, but it did the damage that the GOP hoped for.
Investigate him now too!
As chessmaster Garry Kasparov put it, "The house is on fire, Trump is
running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the
Apparently the FBI doesn't have a calendar. And Obama is slow on the
uptake.Obama was telling Putin to "cut it out" in early
September. And before the election Obama swore there was no way Russia could
throw the election.Along comes December and Barack is calling for
the FBI to investigate and throwing out the Russian diplomats.But
the REAL timeline precedes even December. Hillary was playing the Russia card
during the summer, warning us not to vote for Trump because he was cozy with
Putin. (Now, how did SHE know all that before the Obama administration? Veeeery
interesting.)These guys are proving that if you want accurate,
nonpartisan intel...ask Julian Assange.
"Comey testified that U.S. intelligence agencies are agreed that
Russia's aim evolved into an effort during the election to aid Trump over
Clinton.""'They wanted to hurt our democracy, hurt her,
help him,' Comey said."Comey, the guy who tipped the scales
in favor of Trump by his strategically timed release of information about
alleged new Clinton emails, said that.My head hurts.
Look tough guy, it's very possible the leakers work in the Trump White
House. It's also possible they may have been invoking their "patriotic
duty" to highlight corruption and serious threats to our democracy.All we do know is that Trump lied about Obama wiretapping him and Rep. Stewart
defended Trump to the very possible last minute.
He didn't mind the leaks when they were about Clinton. How can you take any
Chris Stewart calls the leakers "cowards"... but he won't hold a
town hall, because he's afraid of his own constituents.How do
these people get elected... and re-elected?Oh yeah...
The Utah Republican criticized government officials of "hiding behind"
newspaper reporters to get out information, including allegedly wrong
information. He described the people who leak classified data as
"arrogant" and "cowards" because they won't stand up to the
make their case."I hope you find those guys and I hope you crack them on the
head," Stewart said.So what do we do about an arrogant president who
cowardly alleged wrong information, when he likened Obama to
"Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" in a series of Twitter posts
earlier this year."We don't have any information that
supports those tweets," Comey testified.Trump continues to
denigrate the office of president with his daily lies. Comey testified
that U.S. intelligence agencies are agreed that Russia's aim evolved into
an effort during the election to aid Trump over Clinton. "They wanted to
hurt our democracy, hurt her, help him," Comey said.But Chris
knows better and trusts the Russians and Trump over out intelligence
agencies.Sad, unpatriotic partisan hack, thanks for protecting
russia and donald instead of your constituents.
Stewart, Chaffetz, Lee, Hatch, Come on Utah! You can do better than these
characters.I don't mind that you send Conservatives/Republican
candidates to Congress. But, you can send smarter and more capable individuals.
Remember, they not only work for Utah but for the whole country.I
know well educated Utahans, smart and sophisticated, yes! many Democrats but
also many Republicans.Please send at least candidates that will
place country above party.
Yes, the leaks are bad, and illegal. Can you imagine the conditions that are
leading otherwise decent, law abiding people with long careers to take this
risk? Often because they feel a moral imperative to inform the American public?
Yet, let's not let this or the Gorsuch hearings distract us from the
yet here unpublished headline. No evidence of wiretapping or surveillance. They're going to the mat with it anyway, doing substantial and total
unnecessary harm to the president, the presidency, and the nation. It's
incredibly irresponsible and a sign of serious problems. Are they going to
continue to try to lead us down this rabbit hole in some serious sense? If so,
is this real, is the delusion and self confidence so intense? Or is this just a
ruse, a distraction from those pesky Russians?