40% of Utahns are either registered Democrats or unaffiliated.If
Salt Lake City was one district they could elect someone who actually represents
the city and looked after the city's needs. Instead we have
largest metro area carved up like a pizza and we end up with extreme candidates
that wouldn't stand a chance if the moderate vote wasn't so diluted.
All our members of congress do are say no to everything. I'm tired of it.
I agree.I think a lot of the apathy towards politics in this state
stems from the feeling that no matter who runs, the Republican will win. It wouldn't matter if Jesus Christ himself ran as a democrat, he
would be branded a socialist and lose in Utah.
Every state should have an independent election commission and an independent
commission that draws redistricting lines. Politicians in both parties should be
removed as much as possible when it comes to setting rules for elections.
Not only do we need independent election commissions, we desperately need
independent redistricting to end the unconstitutional gerrymandering in this
I notice that the examples of two independent election commissions are Illinois
and Florida. Illinois is a state on the verge of bankruptcy. I guess that is
why the author chose to talk more about Florida than Illinois. I just
wish Paul Harvey's son would come on the radio and tell us the "rest of
There is no such thing as independent or non partisan these days.You
get the choice of elected, accountable, and honest about political biases, or of
appointed, unaccountable, and hiding political biases. I prefer the former over
the latter.If we don't like the way the elected Lt. Gov is
running the elections office, or the way the elected legislature passed laws and
redistricts, we can choose new officials at the next election. Utah maintains
some of the easiest ballot access laws in the nation.For 40 years,
the Utah Democrats have handed the GOP control of Utah by generally running
candidates whose views and personal lifestyles are grossly outside the Utah
mainstream. We see however that when the Democrats run sensible, mainstream
candidates (Matheson), they are competitive.If the UU party runs
mainstream candidates who appeal to Utahns, they will do well. But if they
continue to be just an effort to split the GOP vote to bolster radical left
Democrats, or to continue family dynasties, they will fully deserve to fail.
Changes in election law won't change those outcomes.
This is a wonderful idea, an independent elections commission. In Utah, we are
blessed with a high percentage of unaffiliated voters, so perhaps it could be
mandated that half the members of the commission come from the ranks of the
unaffiliated. The commission could do the redistricting, taking the
decisions for that out of the hands of those (the legislators) who stand to
benefit. It could make recommendations for election procedures and equipment to
ensure the election process was not compromised nor hacked. (I admire the work
Mark Thomas of the Elections Office is currently doing in that regard.) It could
do random spot checks, recounting a portion of the paper ballots -- a practice
which in light of the increased danger of being hacked ought to become common
procedure.Of all offices that ought to be non-partisan, it seems the
elections office should be one.
@AlanSutton;No, the problem is that the politicians have chosen
their voters through gerrymandering.@David;Elected
officials actually shouldn't simply "support the party". They were
elected to govern for the benefit of all citizens, not just "the
party".@Fitness Freak;Every citizens voice should
have equal value and not be gerrymandered out of existence.@Mike
Richards;Problem: Districts that don't represent the people.Resolution: Non-partisan, independent, redistricting. Could it be
any more clearly stated than that (and Constitutional)?
Nuffer was appointed by BO, so his credentials are questionable.county clerks are partisan creatures. That's why the dem SL county clerk
sent out GOP primary ballots to unaffiliated voters who should not have received
them.imp7yes, it WAS progressives, a DEM county clerk mailing
ballots to the wrong voters. not all parts of the state follow the divine
guidance you reference.
Why would Mr. Davis want to change the rules? Oh yes, he's the head of a
political party. He knows that the only way his party can win is if we throw
out the rule book and then let him rewrite the rules.The Democrats
have a party platform. The Republicans have a party platform. Whether we agree
or disagree with those platforms, at least we know how those parties stand on
the issues. Where is Mr. Davis' platform? Does he expect people to blindly
vote without knowing exactly what the party stands for and what a candidate will
most likely do if elected.I would advise Mr. Davis to clearly state
the problem and then tell us how his party would solve the problem while staying
completely within the framework of the Constitution.
@misanthrope:"Progressives are pushing us toward mob rule
democracy."So, it was Progressives that mailed out over 50,000
GOP ballots to the wrong voters? Please explain.
Chaffetz was elected with 73% of the vote. Why would anyone go out of their way
to prevent 'competition' when competition is futile? The assault on
the caucus/convention system is the true assault on our representative
democracy. Voting by mail and having early voting also endanger the integrity
of the vote. I had access to 4 mail ballots. Were I not an honest person, I
could vote 4 times in each election. Progressives are pushing us toward mob rule
No, Utah does not need an independent voting commission. Nonpartisan election
officials have already found no evidence of significant voter fraud. It is a
solution in search of a nonexistent problem. This entire venture is bogus and
the information gathered will be used by Republicans to further suppress voting.
This is well stated. While there may have been no ill intent on behalf of Lt.
Governor Cox, it still becomes a conflict of interest, and a clear ethical
issue.An independent commission is a solution that we could use to
solve this. Decisions regarding political party participation in state elections
should not be put into the hands of those belonging to a political party that
stands to lose or gain from that decision. Ethics matter.
How about this: as soon as the democrats can elect themselves a majority in
Utah; then THEY can set the rules for redistricting.I'm NOT
holding my breath.This is yet ANOTHER partisan piece that attempts
to make it look like the democrats are doing their best to save us from
All disgruntled folks need is money and judge shopping to get what they want.
The election process, as things are trending now, will be decided soon by the
judiciary and not the voters. Other minority parties (and I am a member of one)
have made it onto the ballot and have managed to stay on the ballot despite
obstacles placed there by the dominant party. Were the Democrats the dominant
party the obstacles would be the same, or likely worse. I encourage all voters
to shun the United Utah party and their sense of entitlement, impatience, and
Richard Davis and the United Utah Party has taken offense towards the Republican
Party because of the struggles they endured in getting on the ballot. However,
to be fair, The Lt. Gov office had no prior law instructing how to respond to a
resigning elected official (in this case, Chaffetz). The Gov and Lt. Gov wanted
the case to go to court so a decision could be made. I also believe the Gov has
wanted to keep the special election process out of the Legislature, where the
GOP is more extreme. In my opinion, Gov Herbert has been balanced and fair, as
has Lt. Gov Cox.One must understand that an elected official must
balance his actions to support law, and to support the political party. There
is, at times, conflict. In cases of conflict, the courts help decide the issue,
which is what happened here.For honest disclosure, I support the
United Utah Party and would vote for candidate Bennett if I lived in the 3rd
district. I just feel Davis' comments may be somewhat painted to position
the UUP well for the election--but doesn't reflect the full picture.
To summarize the author's complaint, he just doesn't like the
political party the majority of Utahns have chosen to represent them.
It always seems to take someone at a Federal level to get Utah to do the right
things. Strange, for such a divinely guided state.